Where do you start?

Discussion in 'PSI Superchargers Tech Questions' started by Flyingpig, Jan 3, 2010.

  1. Flyingpig

    Flyingpig Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2006
    Messages:
    131
    Likes Received:
    0
    When you talk about a block being 1/2 short or tall or .100 tall etc, what are you using for a starting point? Is it the stock Chrysler RB block dimension? B block dimension?

    What about the Chevy guys? Do you start with the car block measurements and still call the truck block "tall"?

    When talking cranks, something that has a 5/8 stroke for instance, started life as what?

    Im only guessing but Id say that the stock 426 is where it starts and the Chevys are the short car blocks for starters? Correct?
     
    #1
  2. T.A.D. 776

    T.A.D. 776 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2004
    Messages:
    217
    Likes Received:
    0
    Std deck referees to the factory dimension to the passenger car crankshaft center-line to the deck of the block (head gasket surface)

    So yes a truck block is considered a tall deck in Chevy Land.

    In Chrysler Land it is usually the RB / Hemi engine discussed unless you are building a B motor. The B 400 block with a 440 crank is a popular combination that is why the short deck Hemi combination is popular.

    The stroke term also refers to the standard dimension but with so many different stokes available in our modern times in longer and shorter strokes for almost every engine size it is much more accurate to actually state the stroke in real numbers.
    In other words saying it's a 5/8 stoker is in fact outdated and confusing terminology. Because it -" started life as what? "
     
    #2
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2010
  3. Flyingpig

    Flyingpig Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2006
    Messages:
    131
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks.

    My car is one of those with the 400 block/440 crank.

    So if someone is selling or wanting a BAE block .100 tall that means its .1 taller than the RB?

    I agree that using the actual stroke is the best way to get your point across.
     
    #3
  4. Randy G.

    Randy G. Top Alcohol

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2003
    Messages:
    1,902
    Likes Received:
    36
    Standard deck height of a Chrysler Hemi is 10.725" (10 3/4"). Stock Hemi stroke is 3.750" (3 3/4").

    100 tall means a 10.825" deck height. It's measured from the crankshaft center line to the top of the deck.

    5/8" stroker is stock stroke of 3.750" + .625" (5/8") = 4.375" (4 3/8").

    .
     
    #4
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2010
  5. WANNABE

    WANNABE New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2003
    Messages:
    328
    Likes Received:
    2
    Chevy standards are still 9.800 for standard deck (9.780" is still considered "Zero decked" by some, although that is going away rather quickly.) Tall deck is 10.200". But as soon as you get to either big motors or pro stock engines, it is all a raw measurement. And when you see a pro stock block cut to a total deck height that starts with an "8", then you really forget about "standard" or "tall deck" stuff.
     
    #5
  6. Don Onimus

    Don Onimus New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Messages:
    1,337
    Likes Received:
    0
    measurements

    That goes for the rods are referred to. Call them what they are. Center to center length. My rod boxes have c to c on the side. not + whatever Don
     
    #6
  7. nitrohaulic

    nitrohaulic Bracket Racer

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2004
    Messages:
    117
    Likes Received:
    0
    Old Chevy truck engines had three compression rings. The .400 tall block is how they made room for them.
     
    #7

Share This Page