Trailer tires keep blowing out

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  1. Scott Coxwell

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    What tire do you guys think is the best for Renegade stacker trailer? 215/75R/17.5. I've got to order some asap!
     
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  2. Scott Coxwell

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    When I look at the tires offered on websites there's tons of choices, but what confuses me is same tire with same load rating from same company will have different tire options available. Too many choices for me? Anyone have any proven best choice tires?
     
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    Michelin XTA
     
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  4. Scott Coxwell

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    Thanks. I'm wondering why my trailer has 215s when I'm sure 235s would work and they have a much higher load rating
     
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    Remember that wheels also have a load rating.
     
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    Used just about every brand and still got blowouts. Friend that has numerous trailers that travel the country for shows etc...only uses Sailun and has never had another issue in 6 years. I switched over and not one blowout all season. They look like small versions of big rig tires. Pricing is about the same as the typical brands we all use...or used to use :)
     
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    We were blowing our trailer tires and we kept checking to make sure we weren't overloading them or even had the trailer back to a trailer shop to have them try to find something wrong and nothing seemed to matter.

    Put on American made rubber with the same load rating and haven't blown a tire out in 3 years!
     
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    Trailer tires have a heavier sidewall than the light truck tires many trailers come with from the manufacturers. We replace the tires every 3 years regardless of the condition.
     
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  9. Mike Canter

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    Tires blowout because either they are under inflated or they are overloaded. Read on the side of the tire as to what the max cold pressure is and inflate it to that. I have found out that if your tires don’t have a max inflation pressure of around 120 psi they are not a heavy enough load rating. Another thing that can cause it is not having your trailer towing at the correct angle. If it tilts too far down in the front then a lot more of the weight is on the front axle. You should go to a truck stop with a fully loaded trailer and weigh it on the CAT scales. It only cost $10-12 and a reweigh is cheap. Drive the truck onto a separate scale bed as the trailer and get just the total weight of the trailer. Then move it forward or backwards so you weigh just one axle at a time so you can compare weight on each axle. The read what the max weight the tire can carry which is on the side of the tire and dived the weight of each axle by two and see how it compares to the max weight the tire can carry. The other thing is a tire should never be used over six years and you should put covers on the tires when the trailer is not being used. The sun will cause severe cracking then they will fail.
     
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    Somewhere on here this was discussed before, I think, and the speed rating was mentioned. Prolonged road speeds of over 70 mph can cause issues was the consensus. JW
     
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    X-actly what Mike said
     
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  12. Scott Coxwell

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    This is exactly the conclusion I've came up with, both times I had blow outs was about 6-7 hours into the run without stopping. My tires are correct size and carrying capacity, air pressure is correct etc. I've just read these heavy duty trailer tires carry a J speed rating which is only 62 mph. Renegade stacker carrying a single 2200 lb nitrous car and smart car, 1 small Honda 4 wheeler. I guess prolonged speed is my down fall.

    Thanks all
    Scott
     
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    The biggest enemy of all tires is heat, underinflation, overloading and speed can all cause overheating.

    One thing I have often thought about is that on the trailer when making very sharp turns the tires get stressed because of the trailer having to piviot on non steerable axles. Next time you are turning sharp look at the trailer tires and you will see what I mean, it is the worst on triple axle trailers. The severe stretching/twisting of the tire can't be good for the tire.........
     
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    F58FF589-CF83-42C3-A7D9-47CFD5A76838.png Expensive but worth every penny .... load rating is enough to cover load and then some. My total weight, truck and trailer , is around 40,000 lbs. split evenly between the totor and the trailer. So by ratings I’m good to 28,000 on the trailer.
     
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    I researched numerous tires at tire replacement time because the imports I had on it had many failures. Most of my tire failures on the imports I had been running showed up when I inflated the tires to the maximum pressure printed on the tire. They say they will hold x pounds but when I air them to that pressure, every tire, sooner or later, either blew out or I caught the tread coming loose before they actually blew out. Hard to find American made trailer tires. I opted to spend the money on Goodyear G114's and have never had a problem since. Money well spent and peace of mind to go with it.
     
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  16. Scott Coxwell

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    Have any of you guys ever bought any of these tires online?? If so where from? I’d sure hate to buy seconds off the internet.
     
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    Trailer tire issues suck worse when you don't notice them right away. I remember a crewmember saying "there is a skid mark as far as I can see behind us, but there is not one in front of us".

    That is a nice looking tire Jody recommends.
     
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    Anyone from Chicago area decades, ago would remember Tom Bomb,
    Tom was the last of the last BBC TOP Alcohol dragster racers around,
    Broadway Bob ( Union Grove promoter)
    at the Circus races used to pay the "Bomber"
    $250 for every pass he made during a Circus show, & thats how Tom fed himself, for nearly half a season,
    Running the worlds only all iron BBC (headscincluded) forever, till he got some welded up Bachmanns (sp?)
    Tom never had a job, other than racing a bbc in alcohol when i knew him.

    His trailer, called the "Black Banana" cuz it was bent so badly, or curved dwnward like a banana over the full length,

    I remember 1 yr he had plywood covering 1 side of the trailer, as he took out the side of a bridge, going to the Murderplex National event, in about '89, waisted the side of Black Banana, bad!!

    So tires, thats the topic,
    35 yrs ago, Bomber had 1 major rule, when towing his dose of the clap to tje race track....

    When you tow to a race, you Pray for rain!

    When you leave that race headed to next race, or headed hm, you again Pray for rain, yet again.

    Point is, he learned that the cooler the tires, the better chance he had of making it on his bologna skins to & from a race.
    He lived like 45 min tops from Union Grove,
    & his record was, 3 blow outs in 1 direction to the track.

    So the take away is, as said above, heat kills tires, especially worn ones, like the Bomber ran, cuz he had no money, but loved to race T/A.. So u gotta give him credit for trying, when he raced with stuff most guys wouldnt keep in there junk pile.

    Cuz he was prolly the last "Real semi pro racer" who did it all the really hard way, & for those of us that knew him, you know what i mean.

    Bomber was such a leaker, he had a custom alum fabbed up drip tray under his car eng/tranny , & this was back in the 80s, long before anyone required oil trays or diapers,

    Cuz he knew he always leaked so badly, that NHRA TECH GUYS could even, at times, see oil coming from the place on top side of eng, but kept looking dwn under the car, onto the track, and could NOT see a drop, so they couldnt shut him off.

    Prolly the last of the real Cowboy Top Alcohol guy, for sure..
    RIP TOM BOMB, & thx for the tip of
    "Praying for rain"
    when trying to get to the next race, eating outdated stale bread, mark dwns that were headed for the dumpster, like old bologna if he was on a Hot streak, & had a lil money,
    & loved racin as much as Force or Schumacher, if not more,
    Just happy to be there at that nhra race,
    and those cheap azz cigarrettes he smoked that stunk so bad u could smell him coming up from behind you.

    Took the poorest alcohol dragster racer in the country to teach us that putting your hands on ea tire (& wheel bearings, bk in the 80s) during fuel & pit stops would tell u which mirror to be watch out of,
    for that next blow out thats coming,
    Not if, but when.

    U were 1 of a kind u crazy fool, Tom Bomb.
    GOD Rest your Soul, you loved drag racing more than almost anyone i thk i ever saw race, & was happy to have junk, as long as it lit.

    You forgot more than I will ever know about common sense when trying to race without a real job, & you did it. But nobody blew more tires than you..

    & You just know Tom was a cool cat, when the "Gar" himself used to give Bomber all his take off tires from his Fuel car, if he was around.
    & Garlits was that notably giving or kind to anyone in particular, as i remember...??

    but he was to the "Bomber"
    Kudos to you Bomber!!
    U did it Like Sinatra sung it, "I did it my wayyyyy"

    "Remember kid", he'd say,
    "Always Pray for rain when your towing,
    keeps them tires cool"
    ' Ok Bomber, will do'
    Lmbo
     
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