The No Shake Zone: Last blown car out, turn out the lights

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  1. 310TAD

    310TAD Top Alcohol

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    The "C" (220" diplacement) blower had 9 or 10 hundredths over the old "D" (206" displacement) blowers. Since then, a few of the legal "C" features were incorporated into the new "D"s (larger shafts, tighter clearances, etc.) The only difference left is a 6.5% dispacement increase. With the inneficiencies, and limitations of the intake runner, this would probably translate to a .05 to .06 second improvement, for those that figure out the new tune-up. It would be a start, and I'm for anything that will preserve the class, in whole.

    Take care, all,
    Marty
     
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  2. Brute359

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    In response to the question regarding m.o.v. for a 5.25 vs a 5.35 with identical reaction times... approximately 25 feet.
     
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  3. Mr Scary

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    Marty, maybe NHRA should allow the blown cars to run at 500 CI and the higher Overdrive?
     
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  4. 310TAD

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    Danny,
    Cubic inches are a trade off (cubic inches = power, but lost boost). We don't run the allowed cubic inches now, believing the boost is more important to the BA/D.
    More overdrive would help in the lower part and middle of each gear, and lower optimum shift points, but SFI has placed that limit (not NHRA). The "C" Blower would do somwwhat the same thing. The blower discharge would exeed the intake runners capacity at a lower RPM, resulting in lower optimum shift points. This would increase parts life (mainly valve springs, rods, piston, & cranks), and with a decent tune-up should further decrease breakage (read: oil downs).

    It would be fun to finally have our handcuffs loosened alittle.

    Have a great day,
    Marty
     
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  5. ch3no2

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    I meant a few hundreths not tenths, sorry.
     
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  6. tjenna

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    How about have the A-fuel cars stage in the burnout box?
     
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  7. Randy G.

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    The latest ND has a photo of Maddern's car against Lucas' toward the finish line at Sonoma. Maddern runs a 5.37 to Lucas 5.27. Reaction times were pretty close. It looks like Demke can read the brand of parachutes Lucas has on his car without any problems. 25 feet MOV appears to be incorrect. Looks like at least 35 feet to me.

    RG
     
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  8. Pat McGill

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    How about have the A-fuel cars stage in the burnout box? </font>[/QUOTE]lmao

    How's Oregon?
     
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  9. tjenna

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    Summer has been nice. Salmon fishing is good and the beer is always good.

    Might come to the grove.
     
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  10. Chris Demke

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    Randy,
    When I read your earlier post I was thinking about that exact same photo where Morgan Lucas 'took care' of me (Pg 64, 8/20, ND) at Sonoma. The NHRA rules committee needs to Give Us The Gizmo!!!

    -chris


    -chris

    [ August 23, 2004, 10:36 PM: Message edited by: Chris Demke ]
     
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  11. Scott Nelson

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    Chris,

    The good thing about getting beat that bad, is that the BAD racer can look over when they get to the stripe, and not even see the other guy!

    You can at least pretend you won!

    I agree on the Gizmo, and how about 2.25 OD, just for good measure.

    Congrat's on the win in Billings!

    Scott
     
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  12. Chris Demke

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    Come on Scott, he wasn't THAT far ahead of me!!!! hahahaha!!!! Thanks for the congrats on Billings. I admit that I got pretty lucky, but a win is a win. I 'think' that I have numerically eliminated any chance Morgan Lucas had of passing me in the Div 7 points. Can anyone verify that? Now I just gotta watch out for the Stockton Stalker, Don Hudson!!!

    -chris
    The Tujunga Terror
     
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  13. David Smith

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    Congratulations Chris! Hope to meet up with ya at one of the remaining national events this season.
     
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  14. T.Smith

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  15. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
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    and according to certain 'experts' on the web, the switching to a/fd isn't about the performance, its more about the cost.

    tell that to phil, who just cut a check for $75,000 about how much cheaper the switch to a/fuel is.

    maybe he's been watching too many 'taste great, less filling' commercials. maybe i should get some bikini babes to wrestle in the mud 'goes fast, cost less...' LOL yeah right.
     
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  16. bm79

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    Jason's BAD car was bought from Gunderson for $75k a couple years back and now its for sale at the same price... $75k! Shouldn't that cover the check he just mailed out??
     
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  17. Barry H

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    Just curious, if NHRA allowed the Gizmo, how would it be policed as to make sure it was not being used on a Funny Car?. It sounds like the Gizmo would be the way to go, but as usual, changes can cause other unforseen problems.
     
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  18. ch3no2

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    People always like to make it sound worse than it is. This isn't super street class. if you want to win a championship you pick what gives you the best chance to win within the rules and go with it.
     
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  19. Will Hanna

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    ch3no2, are you related to john kerry?? LOL. one post you state that parity is really close, then you post that if you want to win a championship 'pick the combo' best suited for the rules.

    which is it?
     
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  20. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
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    bm79, looks like you passed intro to business math.

    in economics were you there for the day they covered supply & demand and the effects on price levels?

    plus a Uyehara is like a chevy, they hold their value...
     
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