Ring gap

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  1. 65dodge

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    I recently ordered new pistons and rings from Arias and I didn't get any instructions for the rings. The top ring is a Hellfire and I am not sure what the recommendation is for ring gaps. What is everybody running out there? My combination is for a Blown Alky FED. Veney fuel heads, 6-71 retro blower (made 25lb on old combo), 11.5-1 comp., 4.187 bore, looking to make 1500hp. Thanks.
     
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  2. craig moss

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    rings

    on a 4.310 bore we run hell fires 24 top and 26 second I have ran 22 and 24 with no ring butt 486 blown alk 14 hh delta 50 over 36 psi at 7900-8000 in a jet boat and the engine is at full power the entire track like a hard dyno pull hope this helps Craig:cool:
     
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  3. secondwindracing

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    sounds very tight....36-38 on the top ring...and 28 on the second ring
    that is the specs. that comes with them..just got mine last week:)..Dave
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  4. Mike Canter

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    No guessing here. According to Speed-Pro the recommendation for Hellfire rings for a supercharged motor the top ring should be .006" per inch of bore diameter so that is .025 gap on the top ring. The second ring should be gapped the same as the top at .025". This is based on the expansion rate of those rings in your bore diameter. :D
     
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  5. aj481x

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    Bingo :) :)
     
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  6. Ken Sitko

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    I don't believe 24 on the top is enough, when we ran that much gap the sleeves were getting scored all the way around, and the rings/pistons were damaged. I run 32+ on the tops now with no problem.
     
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  7. Mike Canter

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    Ken was that with Hellfire rings and what is your bore diameter?
     
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    Ken that same thing happened to me..I now us 32 ttt..Dave
     
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  9. Ken Sitko

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    That was with a 4.375 bore, but I still use .032 gap with our current 4.310 bore. I can't say for sure they were hellfire rings, I think I had already switched to the larger gap before I put the HF rings in.
     
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    We run the hellfire @ .026 with 24lbs boost on a 4.530"bore & still going with nil problems,circuit boat which does about 3 minute races.
     
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  11. Mike Canter

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    Well I have tried to put the Speed-Pro instruction sheet for HF rings in this post but it has a insanely small 19.5KB limit. If I change it to that then it can't be read. Does anyone know how to put it on this forum?
     
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  12. Ken Sitko

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    No, I just tried something similar the other day, couldn't do it either. Maybe Will can tell us what we're doing wrong.
     
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  13. mbaker3

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    Mike / Ken,
    I think the 19k limit is for the image in your signature. I have recently seen a lot larger images posted. (example:: the ones about the newly running injected funny car).
    Put an image in Photbucket or one of the similar image storage places on the net and then hit the "insert image" icon on this site's reply box and it should put in the image.
    Here is the result:
    [​IMG]
     
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  14. Mike Canter

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    [​IMG][/IMG]

    Lets see if this works
     
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  15. Mike Canter

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    OK that didn't work.

    In Photobucket I can select on of these options to move the image into the post. Which one do I use???

    Email & IM
    Direct Link
    HTML Code
    IMG Code

    The one I tried was IMG Code so that disn't work
     
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  16. mbaker3

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    IMG CODE
    But when you get it from Photobucket, it already has the IMG tag on it and Insidetopalcohol adds one also. Remove the extra one.
     
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  17. Mike Canter

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    One more time
     
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  18. craig moss

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    I think those specs. are for gas ,so there should be a little buffer left over ??:confused:
     
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  19. Mike Canter

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    This is out of the Speed-Pro catalog
     
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  20. Mike Canter

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    See if this is clearer
     
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