RAY VEIRHELLER!!! Barberton, OH.

Discussion in 'Classifieds Buyer/Seller Feedback' started by c_adgent, Sep 10, 2013.

  1. JACK BILLINGTON

    JACK BILLINGTON New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2014
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Vague answers... so that means every person in this topic casts doubt.

    Private message me your number and we can discuss this further. No benefit airing this out on the forum as its really nit any of your business, let alone everyone else.

    JB
     
    #61
  2. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2003
    Messages:
    6,281
    Likes Received:
    37
    private

    I have no need or desire to talk to you in private. I have a vested interest as I want to make sure the people that use my site don't get screwed. As you say in your posts when Ray tells you something fishy you call bullshit, he pulls the proof out of the filing cabinet.

    Well I'm calling bullshit, so give me some sort of proof that you are a real person and not some alias. It would help your cause of vouching for Ray.

    You wanted to step into a public forum and vouch for the guy. Step up and show "us" something that you are real.

    It's not like I'm just picking on you, there's just a lot of fishy stuff.

    1. To your own admission you posted under Ron Mcm, which was an alias to sell stuff for Ray.

    2. One of your screennames has an email address "vreprinting@yahoo.com" Ray V was in the printing business.

    3. You haven't given a straight answer to back up you are a racer that has bought parts from Ray for 10 years.

    4. You have very intimate knowledge of every transaction listed here.

    5. You drift back and forth in context of first and third person. At some points you are talking about Ray, some points talking for Ray, and some points talking as Ray.
     
    #62
  3. JACK BILLINGTON

    JACK BILLINGTON New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2014
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    First of all if you have a vested interest in the site to make sure your users don't get screwed, then I would think that would be all the more reason to message me to hear what I have to say. So I give you the driver and what bracket class we run and where. We race 2-3 times per year locally and typically test and tune. What will that change knowing about my race team. a pic of the car driver name or whatever, you will just dream up another that statement that you think can't be true.

    I simply got on here to give a couple of facts when others got here saying Ray was scamming to pay them back.
     
    #63
  4. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2003
    Messages:
    6,281
    Likes Received:
    37
    bullshit

    You still haven't answered the question. What car, driver and where do you race?

    So if you are real you are one-third partner in a local test and tune car that runs 2-3 times a year, but you are enough of an authority on buying/selling race car parts that you are going to come on here and set everyone straight on Ray Vierheller?

    You know if someone said "I don't think Will Hanna is a real person" it's pretty easy for me to prove it, even if I had never had a race car or owned a website.

    Why do I need to talk to you in private? Set me straight publicly.
     
    #64
  5. jay70cuda

    jay70cuda Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2009
    Messages:
    844
    Likes Received:
    9
    Block this IP address already!!!

    Block his ass already. Clearly is ray. Poor ray! He's a scam artist looking for attention. Again this should be a warning to all racers , Never buy anything from Barberton , Akron Ohio! He's full of shit. All lies! He doesn't own anything! Goes to the track and watch racing , might own that bleacher seat for the night , maybe that cold beer but that's all he owns. This is a joke. Nobody feels bad for him.
     
    #65
  6. JACK BILLINGTON

    JACK BILLINGTON New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2014
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ok I wanted to do this privately, but I got the drivers permission to post and the last 3 times the car has been out, 2 trips to norwalk for test n tune and a trip to quaker city the driver of the car was Ray. Are you happy now? Probably not.

    68 camaro tube car, bright red, 555 chevy with spray.

    Jay 70 at what point did I ever imply I felt bad for Ray? Poor Ray?

    JB
     
    #66
  7. TADHemiracer

    TADHemiracer Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2010
    Messages:
    337
    Likes Received:
    12
    I agree with Will, if Mr. Billington is a real person and his real name is Jack Billington, I would think that he could PM his physical street address to anyone on ITA and set up a face to face meeting to air Mr. Billington's views and beliefs on RV. I don't see why he would NOT be willing to do that. It would solve several issues. I also would think that he probably has a driver's license and could produce that to prove that he is who he says he is. I see no problem with that, either. If someone thought Will or any ITA member was make-believe we would be willing to prove who we were, no problem. We have nothing to hide.
    SO, Jack, would you PM me your physical address so I or another ITA member can come to your house and spend some quality one on one time with you to sort this all out. Nothing violent or confrontational, just wanting to help identify the players in the RV situation.
    Just trying to help you.
    Stay in touch.
    Barry
     
    #67
  8. Senior moments

    Joined:
    May 4, 2010
    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hmmmmm

    I guess the authorities put Ole' Ray in the pokey by mistake. I mean, who knew there could have been misunderstandings with so many people? I guess the bogus tool sponsorship deal was just a mix-up too?...Uh huh..Right Jack...I mean Ray...I mean...*L0L*. Enough!...I'm done
     
    #68
  9. c_adgent

    c_adgent Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2013
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hold up!!!!

    Listen up JACK!!. Myself along with everyone else involved with this whole mess, are only invloved because YOUR pal Ray had no intentions what so ever of sending parts to anyone. I've had 3 phone calls from Ray's lawyer offering me my money back......why did it take 9mo & legal action to get to this point? If he is such a stand up guy, then answer that for me bud..... The DA has admitted that this whole thing with Ray is much bigger than they originally thought. Ray's lawer is a snake, and probablly his cousin. If anyone accepts any of Ray's new found fortune, we are going against the work the DA has already done in hope of locking this A-hole up. The $1000 isn't the point, its having to take it this far to even get offered my $1000 back is the point.

    Cody Adgent
     
    #69
  10. JACK BILLINGTON

    JACK BILLINGTON New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2014
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Tad hemi why not get on a plane and figure this out yourself. CAK & CLE are the closest airports. Come on over. Otherwise you are just wasting board space.

    c adgent if getting your money back is not the point then what is?

    You guys need to go back and read my posts. You claim I am sticking up for Ray. Not once have I done that. Not once have I said anything other than my personal experience.

    The whole reason I got on here was to question those involved who have insisted Ray is scamming to pay back people who have warrants out on him. I have simply asked if those people were paid back 6 months ago, how could he be scamming to pay people back who have already been paid back? Everyone srems to want to ask me 20 questions which I have answered but no one seems to want to answer the 3-4 questions I have asked.

    JB
     
    #70
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2014
  11. TADHemiracer

    TADHemiracer Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2010
    Messages:
    337
    Likes Received:
    12
    Physical Address to Meet You and Have a Cordial Meetying With you

    Hello Jack,
    It was so pleasant that you returned my most recent message to you on this most public forum but, again, you have not even come close to PM'ing me your physical address. I am sincere in my request for you to come clean on the proving up of your identification. It looks to me that someone here is trying to play mind games and be believe me, you (Jack) Ray) is NOT superior in mind games. You (Jack) (Ray) is only making ,more evidence with the IP address idea and the prosecutors file. GO ahead, have some fun, but, in the end, Ray is going to get his.
    Stay In Touch, Ray.
    Barry:D
     
    #71
  12. JACK BILLINGTON

    JACK BILLINGTON New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2014
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Why on earth would I have any interest giving a perfect stranger my home address to discuss a matter that stranger has no interest in in the first place? You can look at all the IP addresses you want. I have nothing to hide. But I will not post my drivers license, phone number or address ona public forum where it is obvious my opinions and observations piss people off.

    I have answered all that has been asked of me to prove who I am.

    But at this point it makes no difference. It's not about facts. Its about being right regardless of how ridiculous you sound.

    Until I get answers to my questions I don't really have anything else to say. The lack of answers to those questions by the people involved have said a lot.

    JB
     
    #72
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2014
  13. c_adgent

    c_adgent Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2013
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    My point is...........

    The whole damn point is, we had to get the police involved & wait 9 months to get offered our money back. Do you think that is fair Jack? Ole Ray didn't waist any time cashing my check. I personally gave him ample opportunity to just send me my money back numerous times.....but....NOOOOOO. That wasn't good enough. I have waisted plenty of my time getting to this point & I personally will do whatever I can to see that he gets to waste plenty of his time sitting in jail thinking about how he screwed people over. All your buddy Ray had to do is either send the parts he sold or sent a check back in a timely matter. Jack, please PM your phone number because I think the DA would love to discuss this matter with you since you seem to be a wealth of knowledge.
     
    #73
  14. JACK BILLINGTON

    JACK BILLINGTON New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2014
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    So quoting things those involved have already stated and knowing that people have been paid is considered a wealth of knowledge?

    c adgent did you get your money back like the others?

    JB
     
    #74
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2014
  15. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2003
    Messages:
    6,281
    Likes Received:
    37
    what would ray do?

    So do you think Ray would have paid people back had the authorities not got involved?

    What's the other side of the Wright Way Bonus Program? I'm sure people would really love to hear that.
     
    #75
  16. JACK BILLINGTON

    JACK BILLINGTON New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2014
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    No idea. Why don't you call him and find out. That's what I did when I wanted answers.

    JB
     
    #76
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2014
  17. skeen

    skeen New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2007
    Messages:
    149
    Likes Received:
    0
    I myself am going to be GLAD to see ray get to spend some QUALITY time in our correction center here in KY !!!!

    it REALLY stun's the shit out of me that this guy can just KEEP on finding suckers !!!! and it's USUALLY when someone posts a WTB add. that's what I did, and two others that I personally know of.

    I'd REALLY like to commend Will Hanna for "outing" the fact that this " billington" fellow has the same IP address that ray has !!!!!! their are MORE aliases. WE need to get TOGETHER & find out HOW to make these thefts a federal case. THEN it would be DONE !!! gotta serve 85 % of your time in the fed system AND, he'd get a NICE chunk of time !!!!! can anyone help me with this ???

    270 831 4053 cell

    270 869 8853 business

    thanks, Steve Keen
     
    #77
  18. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2003
    Messages:
    6,281
    Likes Received:
    37
    wait for it...wait for it...

    Ok, here comes "Jack" to the rescue in Ray's defense.
     
    #78
  19. Senior moments

    Joined:
    May 4, 2010
    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yeah right...

    Just got a private note on ITA from Jack....sorry I mean Ray.....saying it's a waste of my time to travel all the way from Canada to testify against him...especially since I was paid back...uh huh. OK so here's the deal....I am not traveling all that way...I will be testifying on a secure video link. Jack/Ray can't understand why I still want to testify...afterall he did pay me back. Well, like Cory said....not until the law got involved did I get paid, and from what I know, the money paid to me was from other continued scams - which I did NOT know at the time. So yeah I'm going to carry on. As far as what Corey said...anybody accepting a payback undermines the prosecution - not in my case anyway since it was made explicitly clear to RV's lawyer that even if I got paid back, it had nothing to do with dropping the charges. I got a call a couple of days ago from the prosecutor asking if I wanted to carry on, to which I said yes. I have nothing to gain financially by carrying on, but I just f**k'n hate a thief. I'm no crusader but thieves live right at the bottom of the tank.
     
    #79
  20. skeen

    skeen New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2007
    Messages:
    149
    Likes Received:
    0


    AMEN !!!!! Can I get an AMEN !!!!!!
     
    #80

Share This Page