1. WJ Birmingham

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    Mike;

    I think I'd sooner see them spending their profits by investing in new technologies that reduce or eliminate our dependance on crude oil for fuel.

    If we could step back and just use oil for lubrication, we'd stop making the terrorist sponsoring countries rich enough to sponsor the terrorism we're supposedly fighting.
     
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  2. eli

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    If you pay $4.00 a gallon for fuel and get 10 miles per gallon, it cost you $1.00 to drive 2.5 miles. :eek: :mad:
     
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  3. eli

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    When we go fight a war in a foreign land and win, We should take over that country, like they did in the old days, Instead we fight, They watch us die, And they reap the benefits. :mad:
     
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    As a former resident of Alaska let me tell you that the .05% of the population that you say opposes the ANWR drilling are definately from there. OPEC funds and in some cases forms the Tree Hugging organizations so that they have enough money and power to keep things like that from happening. You percentages on the price are pretty accurate, however in places like Houston TX where they use oil from the US and places like Alaska where they use ONLY OIL FROM ALASKA the price should be alot lower but because of greed they charge more for their oil just because OPEC has jacked up the price of Saudi oil and therefore greed sets in. This happens all over and its just not right.
     
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  5. Mike Canter

    Mike Canter Top Dragster

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    Here is another interesting piece of information. I barrel of crude oil breaks down to set amounts of tar, lubricating oil, kerosene, diesel fuel and gasoline. The way that the crude is heated in the cracking towers allows different products to be taken off at different levels in the tower due to their molecular weight and how far they will rise in the tower. Because of this if you stopped using lubricating oil doesn't mean that you will get more gasoline or diesel fuel. I was shocked when I found this out. It is a fixed ratio.
     
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  6. WJ Birmingham

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    Mike;

    Isn't methanol cracked off in the towers too? Somewhere up top?
     
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  7. Mike Canter

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    According to the internet. When natural gas is mixed with steam and heated to 900°C (about 1650°F) over a catalyst, it is transformed to "synthesis" gas. This gas is pressurized, converted to methanol, and distilled to yield pure methanol.
     
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  8. mark6052

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    price of fuels

    If you think diesel is high, I just got my price sheet for VP racing fuels. the price of C-44 is $2000.00 for a 54 gal drum! :eek::eek: thats a 2 with 3 zeros folks. methanol is over 6 dallors a gallon. that fishing boat is looking better all the time.
     
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  9. SoDak

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    I thought methanol was a wood alcohol?:confused:
     
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  10. eli

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    Only if they make them with a sail. ;)
     
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  11. 359PETE

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    The company I work for run 60 series det. 440 hp, 10 spd. double over with 333"s, drivers lopro 22.5. The K- wablies & freight shakers pull the semis and the peter beaters pull the joints and tripples. Mpg 4.3 to 7.4 @ 80,000 to 115,000 gvw.
     
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  12. Mike Canter

    Mike Canter Top Dragster

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    Yes, methanol is commonly called wood alcohol but that is not what it is made of today.
     
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  13. Bill Naves

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    fuel

    that fishing boat is looking better as long as it has oars!!
     
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  14. secondwindracing

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    Hey Bill I don't fish but I will go and help you drink beer:D
     
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  15. 359PETE

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    In Germany a 16 year old kid can drink @ (Das Hauf Brau) the beer halls. A liter of the German barley pop @ 16, a kid would get the spins,:confused: but @ 20 or so that same kid could drink 5 liters and never feel it. I know, I speak from trial and error.:D
     
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  16. nmro2114

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    let us also not forget that the US has not built a new refinery in over 30 years.
     
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  17. Sledge

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    premium unleaded.....18 cents a gallon-Kuwait Don't know about diesel but in NC B20 Bio is 2.31 and diesel 2.50
     
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  18. jody stroud

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    Here's some food for thought, if everyone drives a vechicle that gets double the avg. mpg of today, gas will cost double what it is now. Oil companys will want to keep the same profit margins reguardless of how much demand there is. If as a nation we use 1/2 as much fuel in a few years, it will cost twice as much.
     
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  19. Mike Canter

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    Jody, oil company profits are pretty well a fixed percentage. Read my first reply on percentage breakdown. And their are no Chevy 283 motors with a special carburator that used to get 50 MPG but the oil companies got rid of it (lol):D
     
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  20. 359PETE

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    In so. west Wa. St. diesel is $ 4.40 a gal. Opec wants payment in Euros from the us oil companies? Sh-t M-n F--k! ASHES TO ASHES, DUST TO DUST, OUR DOLLAR JUST DIED, SO FORGET ABOUT US!:mad:
     
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