Beadlock VS Liner Tire

Anybody Know the Pros and Cons of running either style of Rim ?

 

I Hope You Read Will's Reply ! I Fought At Least A Half Season Trying To Figure My Altered With A 481x And Lencodrive Out, Litterly From Blowing The Tires Off To Shaking The Tin Work Out...borrowed A Set Of Tires(liner) From Snyder At A Points Meet And Went Right Down The Track,went Back To Beadloc's The Next Pass And Can't Get Down The Track...beadloc's Need Wheel Speed And Don't Let The Tire Pressure Throw You Off..take It From 50 Years Of Racing Experience,and Still Learning....

 

liners

I am curious as to why they made it mandatory for the prostock cars to use beadlocks. Why could they not benfit from a liner. The blown cars make 2 times the amont of power. Does tire move with a liner(spin on the rim) ? or stay put? Just never run them so dunno.

Sean

 

Is there a considrable wieght difference ? Which is heaver? thx for the replys

 

We weighed our car with beadlocks, and with the tube/liner wheels at the same track (Mission, BC), same event, same day and we are 30 pounds lighter with the beadlocks.

As Will said, the beadlocks will grab harder on the line versus the tube & liner type.

Our preference with our TAD and our TAFC is to run the beadlock rims (16x16) with 34.5 M/T slicks. It's all in how you set your car up, we tried switching back and forth and the clutch setup (weight and base) has to be quite different between the two. We found when we swapped to the tube & liner tires we were having tire shake problems. We've only had a handfull of times when we shook the tires with the beadlocks in the past 3 or 4 years, and only a couple that I remember were bad enough to abort the run.

 

What Kind-a Tire Pressure With The Beadloc's.....

 

we have been running 6.5 lbs seam to work ok

 

Usually we run them at 5.5 psi, have run as high as 6.25, and as low as 5.

 

santo....what size tire you run? hoosiers? we run 33.5-17-16 hoosiers with beadlock....usually around 5-6lbs........works good.

 

17 X 34.5 With A Lencodrive,leaving at 4000 rpm...

 

Reason im asking you TAFC guys is because not many Door car guys run that combo .Except for one guy and hes seems to have the rest of the door car field coverd maybe hes on to something ? I know he was running bead locks last year but has really stepped up since switching to the convopro linner type you can clearly see in this photo 3.70@205 1/8 good even for TAFC no ?
http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3970&Itemid=6

 

Don, good eyes,you should be lookin at the clutch too: I have been wondering if the rear shocks are just for decoration looks like a TAFC with doorsbut I will give the guy credit for his talents.

 

brand vs shake

Any experience with whether Goodyear, Hoosier, or MT's shake more or less with beadlocks or liners?

bob szabo, author of racing manuals; FI Racing Secrets & 5000 HP on Meth
bob@racecarbook.com

 

Tire shake comes from the clutch going in and out ( grabbing then slipping ). Don't any of you old timers remember driving your old mans car when the clutch wasn't adj. right, And the car would shake your false teeth out of your mouth? It's just more pronounced with a race car and it happens faster. richen up the low speed lean out ( SCREW BLOWER CAR ) P/S As far as rims, Liners are better, 14 in wide x 16 will let the tire grow more on the top end. It will be like an extra gear, and for you guys using a blank jet in the main and using the loop to tune, You go boyz!!! some one i know has been doing that from the 70's.

 

photo looks like jason scruggs adrl pro extreme. up to 50% nitro ok, 225 over screw ok, suspension optional, no weight min.,rules did say 15.1 beadlocks...yes he is the one to beat

 

Is there any special procedure to mount the liners,tires and tubes on the rims or just go to a tire place ?