The Green NHRA

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  1. Bob Kraemer

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  2. ITS IN MY BLOOD

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    GLENDORA, Calif. (Feb. 15, 2010) – Recognizing the need to further protect the environment at racing venues, NHRA has announced a new environmental management policy for all NHRA events and/or facilities, effective at all NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series events beginning with the NHRA Gatornationals, March 11-14.
    The program involves three primary rules that must be followed regarding the use, possession and disposal of regulated waste.
    First and foremost, each participant must participate online in a mandatory training session regarding environmental uses as they relate to racing. The training presentation will be available on the National Event Registration website after logging into their account.
    Second, no halogenated or chlorinated brake cleaners may be used at NHRA events or facilities.
    And, finally, the responsibility of compliance with Federal, State and Local regulations belongs to the participant.
    NHRA will post information provided by tracks on the national registration website when provided by the national event facilities.
    NHRA intends to work with government entities, agencies and tracks to monitor and enforce the new environmental management program. Penalties, for non-compliance, will be assessed by NHRA, with a minimum $1,000 fine imposed for any violation.
    The entire environmental management responsibility program as well as the training session will be posted on the registration website. When competitors log into their account, they will be required to complete the training and sign the agreement before they can complete the registration process.

    So let me get this straight,,,.....

    #1)..Each Participant..??? So every crew member driver, owner, and helper needs to take take the class online,..

    #2) crystal clear rule,..if rules could only be this simple to apply

    #3)..And, finally, the responsibility of compliance with Federal, State and Local regulations belongs to the participant.
    The participant is responsible for all their OWN oil disposal,.."BS" YOU ALL
    belong to an association as a member, your association is responsible for your oil disposal....PERIOD. !!!!!!!!

    :confused::(:eek:
     
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  3. DQUES

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    Maybe NHRA can find a "official" supplier of an approved brake cleaner that must be purchased from NHRA for a set price at their events . Maybe a haz mat fee in the future to be tacked onto the entry fee .
     
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  4. Randy G.

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    I said this was coming on another board a couple years ago and was massacred for getting "political" on a racing web site.

    BTW, last weekend even E-Gore's #1 scientist admitted global warming was nothing but a bunch of hype without any credible facts, yet the beat goes on.
     
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  5. Will Hanna

    Will Hanna We put the 'inside' in Top Alcohol
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    Epa

    I'm going to give NHRA the benefit of the doubt here. I'm guessing this was done to keep the EPA off their backs. Like it or not, the last thing we want is EPA digging their claws into an NHRA event. We would instantly have to have an oil proof pit mat and have to pay a haz mat fee for all our garbage.

    On top of all of that, do you really want an EPA rep at a NHRA national event to see a cloud of yellow nitro fumes coming out of an awning or a bunch of nitro junkies sucking as much of it up as they can?

    It sucks, but this kind of bs is inevitable with our current administration.

    Just a note to future replies, as soon as this turns into a political bash fest post, it will be deleted...
     
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  6. Frankie

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    Oh sure throw out a line like that. Open the door and then immediately slam it shut :p
     
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  7. lugnut

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    There are oil pick-up services that will actually pay per gallon to get your used oil. Seems like they would keep thier mouth shut and collect thier money.It wont be much longer and everyone will have to be OSHA certified!!!
     
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  9. East Coast Guy

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    Call me naive but i thought most tracks recycled used oil anyway, i know the one i run at regularly does.

    Tim Steed
     
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  10. REEHL EQUIPMENT

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    I was told the EPA was at Pomona in Nov. for the national event. I'm thinking the spilled oil in each pit and the runoff here in L.A. to the storm drains will be the problem. Nat. Dragster had a letter to the editor regarding brake clean years ago.
     
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  11. eli

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    Why not give the oil to the freaking reaken, he can use it to slick back his hair. :p :D
     
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  12. Barry Ferriolo

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    I think it's a good idea. We don't need to dump all the crap we carry in our trailers in someone's drinking water. You guys can trash the EPA - DEP - or make statements like "this kind of BS is inevitable with our current administration" but before you do you should talk to a parent from Toms River NJ whose child was diagnosed with leukemia or brain cancer thanks to the dumping of chemicals in the ground by Ceba Geigy.
     
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  13. Randy G.

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    The point I tried to make a couple years ago was that NHRA needed to be proactive to head the wrath of the EPA off at the pass. I said that if they (the EPA) showed up at an event and NHRA is doing nothing then all heck will break loose. If NHRA could show the EPA they were phasing out leaded racing fuels and had systems in place to handle waste materials, oils and solvents then NHRA should be fine. BTW, over the last few years NHRA has been doing most of what I said.

    I doubt anyone here is for irresponsible behavior, but I do remember some of my neighbors when I was a kid dumping used motor oil down the manhole in front of their house which is not good.

    The thing I worry about is the EPA and CARB going overboard like designating something that is natural (CO2) as a pollutant for political purposes (Cap and Trade) or deciding an NHRA or NASCAR event has a carbon footprint (BS) so large the world can't afford it's existance any longer...even though politicians are flying jumbo jets with just 6 or 7 people in them all over the country so they don't miss any of their kids soccer games. Most of these chums are hypocrits.

    RG
     
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  14. Barry Ferriolo

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    Randy - I agree with your first two paragraphs. But if you think CO2 is natural and shouldn't be used for political purposes than may I suggest putting a bag over you head and see how long it takes you to realize what too much CO2 in your lungs will do to you.
     
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  15. Barry H

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    I'm sure NHRA is bowing to pressure. Keep in mind that the HQ is in California, probably the most over-regulated state there is. I run Auto Repair businesses here and we are constantly hit with new rules. Just this year we received a letter from the State that lead wheel weights are no longer allowed. We received the letter January 12, with an effective daye of January 1 and a $2500.00 per car fine if we used lead weights. There is also no disposal program to get rid of our old inventory. By the way, it only cost about $600.00 per location to get new steel weights to replace the lead weights. We have not been able to use chlorinated brake clean for years and we PAY about $1.00 per gallon to haul off our used oil (not contaminated with alcohol or fuel by the way). Oh well, just the cost of doing business and we should be able to pass it on to our customers, but the racers will have to absorb it.
     
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  16. Randy G.

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    There is a lot of debate going on about so-called "greenhouse gases." Most of it is being debunked on a daily basis. I'll hold my tongue on the validity and motivation behind the discussions involving MMGW, GGG, and the C&T farce and save it for the political boards where I hang out.

    You know CO2 is a trace gas in our atmosphere. What percentage of living trees, plants, and grass (including the ocean consumption of CO2) would survive if you put a bag over them and they had to do without it?

    RG
     
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  17. Barry Ferriolo

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    Randy -I guess I should counter with the melting polar ice caps and the destruction of the rain forest but I have to log off... Glen Beck is on ... then it's on to Shawn Hannity...maybe you'll be on tonight... NA... I think I'll stick to drag racing stuff. Had Fun. Peace Brother. Barry
     
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  18. Will Hanna

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    Politics

    Barry,

    I'll respect your political viewpoints, however, my statement was more an observation of this administration's ramped up EPA involvement across the board.

    I tend to think this was along the lines of what Randy is talking about, it would be a lot better to show NHRA where there is a policy them policing these types of deals rather than having the EPA come in and really screw things up.

    Guys this is an important topic to racers, and I'd love to jump in with my opinion of global warming, but CO2 talk and the like are a discussion for another message board.
     
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  19. Barry H

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    Will, my post (the other Barry) was intended to ask the question or point out that NHRA is based in California and would most likely need to address issues in a way that would meet the strictest regulations in the nation.
     
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  20. Barry Ferriolo

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    Will - It's obvious to me what your point of view is when you use the words BS and CURRENT ADMINISTRATION in the same sentence. My point is NHRA and the EPA should work together. The NHRA should set the standard. Talk about good press. How many oil soaked bodies and motors have been washed down by can after can of break clean. Walk by a trash can and take a look at the dozens of quarts of 60 and 70 wt with oil in them. I once picked up a case of empty quarts and drained them. I ended up with a full quart. When these end up in a land fill- what do you think becomes of them along with all the oil soaked rags and paper towels. How many overflowing oil dump cans have you seen. What would be wrong with mandating that all the super classes run on alcohol. There's a ton of things that could be done working in conjunction with the EPA. Why not prove your doing something rather than have a agency tell you what to do because you're doing nothing.
     
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