1471 Littlefield on a SBC

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  1. EZSTCAMARO

    EZSTCAMARO New Member

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    Has any of you built a SBC with a roots supercherger for all out competition alky injection? How much power is available with 23* heads or with what heads?
     
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    Rick Santos had pretty good luck with his SBC until they made him add weight cause he was kicking butt, and some didn't take to kindly to it
     
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    Have a Littlefield 1471 hh on a 377 small block with Brodix track 1 heads. Has gone 6.92 at 195 with 22 pounds of boostm in an altered.
     
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  4. isracing

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    I've got an all out competetion SBC 410" with 23* heads, only I'm running a 10-71 HH blower. Have been 5.10/144 in the 1/8 at 3100lbs on a true 10" tire

    Put together by S&S Rick Santos

    As for power, we dyno'd it and it made 1500hp @7000 with 19lbs of boost/ 30* timing, never made a pull past 7k rpm, has WAY more in this beast
     
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  5. blown375

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    I had a 375" sbc with 23* AFR heads and a 10 -71 SSI at 12% over that went 4.20 in the 1/8 mile and it was still no where near its full potential.
    I only went to a Hemi , from a durability standpoint ;)
     
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  6. EZSTCAMARO

    EZSTCAMARO New Member

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    Thanks for all the input guys. I am thinking more about the sbc now. I need to be able to go high 4's in 1/8 mile @3000 on tt5's.
     
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    what kind of rules do you have to run?? blower size, od, fuel pump limits, etc
     
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  8. EZSTCAMARO

    EZSTCAMARO New Member

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    Rules or only no screw blowers. Cash is my limit that is why I am looking at 23* heads. They make it fit my budget a lot better. I have a Littlefield 1471 with Birdcatcher.
     
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    I ran a blown sbc that ran consistent mid to low 3.90's in the 1/8th. My setup was a -12 Brodix head and a Brodix wide rail raised cam block. We used a standard Kobelco 10-71HH at 35% o.d.. We had a Knut injector, Enderle square BV, pretty basic stuff. I believe it was a 4.150 bore. I still consult with the car that currently runs the motor, very competitive setup.

    Brandon Booher
    NHRA TAD #34
     
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  10. isracing

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    If you wanna go high 4's in the 1/8 on a TT5, buy my motor, it will definately get you there... it's for sale turn key, hat to pan, fuel, ignition, drop in hook up headers and go!
     
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    I was thinking of sleaving my 410 down to 380 for the head gaskets. You guys that are running 4.125+ bore were You running water?
    410 cubes -12 brodix heads , 8-71 20 over 6.8's so far at 1950 lbs.
    Steve
     
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  12. isracing

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    I am at 4.170 right now and run water, had an issue with it last year where water was pushing out of #2 plug hole, but when I got the motor apart everything was perfect, gasket was fine, heads were fine, block was fine.. not sure what happened. Just gonna make sure I seal it up very very well this go around. But in the past prior to the leak last year I haven't had any issues with water.
     
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    Thanks isc racing, what gasket and sealer? I've tried the soft copper and silicone and the impregnated gaskets, alum heads and oringed iron block on mine. I haven't had water in the cyl. but do push it out the overflow.
    Steve
     
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    We ran .060 gaskets (+/- .020) for tuning. The best gaskets you can get for that are the RCC Coated FlatOut Gaskets. I have several sets of them if you are interested. With that weight and -12 head setup you should be able to hit low 6's no problem, our quickest 1/4 mi. pass was 6.10 @ 221. What crank/rods etc do you have in the motor? What brand of blower? Do you have the down nozzles in your -12's? A great person to talk to about the -12 setup is Rick/George Santos. My dad and I also have lots of experience with the motor, be happy to answer any questions you may have.

    *We also ran water through the block and heads, on the -12 the 4/6 and 3/5 exhaust are so close you need to cool them or dropping seats will become common.

    Brandon Booher
    NHRA TAD #34
     
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  15. pontus

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    ignition

    Hello Brandon
    My name is Pontus from Sweden
    Iam running a Santos sbc whith 12 heads and a psi screw blower on top
    and i have run 6.71 in a door car whith a terrible first 1/8mile so i think we can go
    faster but my question is how much ignition did you run i am at 35 degrees now
    but the German team that i bought the engine from tell me that they run it on
    38 degrees and they pusch it to the limit and theres best time was 5.8 in the 1/4 mile.
    And did you pull some ignition on the top end or ?
    Thanks and Best regards to you
     
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    For us the max seemed to be 37 degrees, after that it'd start welding the plugs into the heads. I would pull 3 degrees out at the 2-3 shift and leave it out for the rest of the run. We had a HH 10-71 Kobelco w/ no mods, with your blower you shouldn't have to run that much timing. We used a MSD 44 Mag and with our blower we likely ran a different cam setup than you. If rules weren't a determining factor, I'd be chilling the methanol to as cold as possible and figure out the gearing so you're going through the lights at 92xx-95xx or so. We used a 2spd. powerglide as well as a 3spd. Lencodrive, always Coan Converters. We were around 1750 car/driver, so the weight disparity is something to take into account.

    Brandon Booher
    NHRA TAD #34
     
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